Mixed Messages: Debating the Henry-Hartman incident

The incident between Thierry Henry and Kevin Hartman from Thursday night has sparked conversation around the US soccer scene. Was it an accident? Did Henry deserve a caution?
The MLSsoccer.com editors share their opinions:

Jason Saghini, producer ā€” It's typical of Henry to pound the ball into the net after a goal is scored. We've seen it plenty of times already. The issue is, obviously, that Hartman was behind the ball this time. I am a believer that a ref can take into account the consequences of an incident when giving a card. If Albright popped up after the Shea tackle, it would probably have been only a yellow. With Hartman forced to leave the game, I can see Henry's act deserving a yellow card. A quick, judgment call by the ref, but I can see it either way.


Greg Lalas, editor in chief ā€” This is a freak accident. Period. I feel terrible for Hartman that he is injuredā€”and for his teammates and FC Dallas fans, who have lost one of their best assets. But Henry was not attempting to injure Hartman. He was simply celebrating a goal. Just as players have for decades, even centuries. Slamming the ball back into the net is a time-honored method of putting a powerful exclamation point on a joyous moment. The fact that Hartman was there at this moment was a bit of unfortunate happenstance.


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Dan Haiek, producer ā€” I understand that itā€™s his signature celebration after any teammate scores, and I am typically all for enthusiastic showings following a goal, but in this case it was completely unnecessary. With the opposing goalkeeper just over the ball, Henry should have shown more common sense than to kick at the ballā€”and his opponent at the same time. The second yellow should have been shown simply for the bone-headed nature of Henryā€™s decision.


Jonah Freedman, managing editor ā€” Sorry, I just don't buy it. You get a yellow card for taking your shirt off in celebration ā€“ how is kicking a ball into an empty net less of an offense? It's unnecessary, it's silly and it's not fair play. And unfortunately, the Kevin Hartman incident shows exactly what can happen in a worst-case scenario. Welcome to MLS, Thierry. Now learn to play by our rules.


Simon Borg, content producer ā€” Whether itā€™s delay of game or unsportsmanlike conduct, Henry should have received a yellow. Hartmanā€™s injury only helped draw attention to a goal ā€œcelebrationā€ which refs should uproot from the game. Violently kicking the ball anywhere after a goal is scored should be an automatic booking. If you canā€™t touch the corner flag to celebrate, you shouldnā€™t touch the ball.


David Agrell, new media editor ā€” Had Hartman not been injured, we wouldnā€™t be talking about this today. Henry simply booting the ball into the net following a goal would not, generally, be punished with a card of any color. However, it was reckless on Henryā€™s behalf, and I find it hard to believe the match officials didnā€™t think this warranted a caution. Perhaps Henryā€™s previous card influenced the refereeā€™s decision to not punish him. Either way, the end result is tragic for Dallas, especially if Hartmanā€™s out for any length of time.