Toronto FC goalkeeper Clint Irwin will make a homecoming of sorts this weekend when his new club visits the Colorado Rapids (8 pm ET, TSN, MLS Live). Irwin spent three seasons with the Rapids, becoming one of Coloradoās rare bright spots during some lean years.
During that time, Irwin also became a fan favorite. His actions on the field certainly earned him that reputation, but it was what he did with his time off the pitch that truly set him apart: Irwin sat down at his computer and penned thoughtful, candid pieces about his life as a professional athlete.
During TFCās preseason stay in Orlando, MLSsoccer.com sat down with Irwin for a wide-ranging conversation. Here it is:
Youāre coming to Toronto from Colorado. I think itās fair to say that, while expectations did exist in Colorado, they were tempered ā now youāre at one of the leagueās glamour franchises, playing with arguably the best player in league history and a pair of US national team stars. Do you feel the weight of expectations?
I donāt necessarily feel the weight of expectations. I think the expectations are really healthy. Itās one of the things that excited me about the move ā you have more attention, there are more people watching. Throughout my career, when the expectations are higher, Iāve always risen to them. They make me a better player. Itās important as a player to embrace those expectations and set goals that are going to exceed those expectations.
Youāve been on the periphery of the national team picture for a while, and thereās been turnover recently in the goalkeeper pool with the USMNT. How much do you think about that as a next step?
Itās always in the back of your mind, [trying to] work your way into that player pool. Itās definitely a goal of mine. I think it can only help when you have very big players on the national team on your own roster. You can learn what it takes to get to that level and lean on them for any sort of guidance that they have. Its another thing thatās excited me about the move -- being around those good players and guys who are getting called up week in and week out to the national team.
Iāve read articles youāve written and interviews youāve given where you talk about your leaner days playing lower-division soccer. Your career trajectory has been pretty linear, as opposed to some of these guys who come out of college and are comfortable straight away. How has that shaped your thought process on your success nowadays?
I definitely am more appreciative of the opportunity thatās in front of me now, having been to probably the bottom of the soccer pyramid in North America. I do think it offers some sort of perspective as a player to know that there are players playing here, plying their trade, going through the day in day out just like anyone else but maybe not in the same environment, same training facility that we have up here. Itās a lot different, it makes me appreciative of every opportunity that I got and every opportunity that I have to step out there and play because you never know when you might be going back down the pyramid. Itās kind of a kick in the backside.
Do you miss the struggle?
You donāt necessarily miss the soccer struggle part. But sometimes you miss the camaraderie part of it, when youāre living with seven other guys in a house ā those relationships by necessity become close. You bond over those struggles and develop strong friendships. You look back and you still keep in contact with those guys and thatās sort of what binds it all together throughout the course of your careers.
Thereās a perception of you, one that certainly you helped create, that youāre a āthinking manās player.ā Youāve written a number of columns for a few different sites, youāre very active on Twitter. Is this a thing where itās just an interest of yours? Or do you feel the need to speak out for other athletes who maybe donāt write?
Itās a bit of both. I think for one, sometimes Twitter isnāt the best medium to express those longer thoughts. Itās great in some regards, but firing off two or three sentence missives ā it doesnāt leave much room for nuance, thereās not much room for discussion or to really delve into things. In that respect, writing a column or an account, however you want to say it, gives you a little bit more room to describe things that you really want to address.
I think, still, the media landscape in Colorado was a little younger ā not younger in terms of the age of the reporters but Iād say younger in terms of covering the game. I think a lot of times reporters come up to us and just ask us, āWhat are you guys working on this week for the game on Saturdayā or āWhat did you think about the game yesterday?ā Those are fine questions, but a lot of guys that I know, myself included, we have thoughts on subjects that are maybe outside of just the beat reporterās questions. Herculez Gomez is a guy I think whoās really thoughtful about a lot of things happening around the game and outside of it.
Why do you think more guys donāt take to writing or maybe expressing their thoughts to the media ā is there a fear of public perception, or how that public perception might affect their career?
Iāll speak from my own personal experience. I think youāre seeing it more with the Players' Tribune. I always watch Richard Shermanās press conferences now because theyāve become an open forum for him to just say whatever he wants to say, which I think is awesome. I think itās really cool that he takes that opportunity to say what he wants to say rather than have a narrative thatās driven by the people on the other side asking him questions. But I think, from my personal experience, in this league as a player you represent so many different things. You have to be so aware of what youāre saying.
As a player you represent yourself, your family, the club youāre employed by. The club is owned by an ownership group, the club is part of MLS so you represent MLS. If you play for the national team, or have a desire to, you represent US Soccer. If you have sponsors or endorsements, you represent them. Thereās a lot at stake and a lot of interests; you almost have to tread very lightly in terms of keeping people happy and keeping the people who are paying you happy. Very few players are in that position where they can say whatever they want without repercussions.
Do you think most clubs in this league would prefer that their players stick to the boilerplate stuff ā tough game, couldāve gotten a couple breaks, etc. ā and not venture outside of that bubble to speak their mind?
I think itās a two-way street. I think good questions get good answers. One of the things that is driving me to write more is are the questions that Iām getting. Iāll get asked, āWhat did you think about the game?ā Well, it was a good game, we didnāt get the result, we gotta improve next week. Thatās your standard answer. I think most people want to hear more from the athletes. I want to hear more from the other players ā what are they thinking? I just donāt think that players are getting that opportunity. Either the expectations are set so low or weāve just gotten into this routine.
Letās talk about something less depressing. The election. What do you make of Donald Trumpās rise to political relevance?
Itās almost like a reality show. Iām more of an interested observer than a willing participant. I studied political science in college so I try and take more of a detached view on why these things are happening, not necessarily [opining that] āthis is terrible, this is awesome.ā Itās definitely interesting for sure. Iāve been trying to figure out for each candidate how things are viewed in Canada. Itās interesting to get the outsiderās perspective.
What do you think [Canadians] make of all of this?
Iām sure they think that [Trump is] a typical American blowhard. But for me, itās how did we get to this point? What has contributed to the rise of Trump and even [Bernie] Sanders on the other side. People are obviously dissatisfied with Washington [D.C.] in general and how things have played out. Not too many guys in the locker room are just saying things like āTrump is crazyā or āSanders is a communist or whatever.ā Itās more observational.
Thereās a perception I think that exists that soccer is more of a progressive sport than some others. Does that hold true in the locker room?
I think you typically know where players stand. Every political engagement that Iāve ever seen in the locker room has been respectful. Ultimately, youāve gotta see these guys the next day ā itās not like you can get on Twitter and fire off āyouāre an idiotā [at your teammate.]
I donāt think itās any different than the rest of society, which is normally about 50-50. Everyone always asks about āthe locker room.ā Itās a reflection of society in every way. We have immigrants on our team, foreign guys on our team, we have dyed-in-the-wool Americans on our team, we have Canadians on our team. It helps you get better perspective in terms of where your political leanings might fall, but at the same time itās always different.
I wonder how much thought youāve put into what youād like to do after your playing days end ā hopefully later than sooner.
I think about it. Like you said, hopefully it isnāt any time soon. But even while playing in Charlotte, in USL, Iāve worked before. I know what that looks like, I know a little bit of the direction Iād go. I want to be involved with the game. I think the growth of the game is going to lead to a lot more opportunities in terms of jobs, leadership positions. More media, I think. I havenāt really honed in on what exactly ā like an exact role ā but I know I want to be involved with soccer in some capacity.
You just said, āIāve worked before.ā Thatās interesting. I wonder if you think thereās a perception of athletes that they canāt do anything else ā that the question isnāt āwhat would you like to do after youāre done playing,ā itās more āman, what is this guy gonna do after heās done playing?ā
That perception exists. With MLS, Iād say we have the most educated player base out of the major sports because most of our domestic players are going to college. Thatās certainly changing, but there is that perception, the perception that right now this isnāt a job, that we go out there and we play a game. In some respects thatās true, but itās still a job. We have to show up at a certain time, we have expectations that are attached to our job, performance reviews basically. It is a job. Itās just the most fun job youāll ever have. Thatās what I tell young guys. If youāre not having fun out there, I mean ā this is the peak level of fun in your work career. Youāll never have a job that you enjoy as much as this.
So you have these other interests ā writing, youāre obviously a multi-layered human being. Is it tough to balance that stuff with playing?
Itās more of an outlet. One of the things Iāve learned is that writing certainly isnāt something I see as an actual career, where I have an editor and I crank out [a certain] amount of pieces per week. That doesnāt really give me pleasure in that respect. Itās more so when I have something to say and feel strongly about it, I get on my computer and type something up. And sometimes itās not even something that I might publish ā itās just something I write to get down and see what it looks like. I think itās definitely become different for me with all the different things you have to think about as a pro when youāre writing. You realize you donāt have to jump into every single debate or issue or whatever it is, because sometimes itās just not worth it. Especially on Twitter.